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Because you cannot prove the existence of any kind of pathogen, lesion or tumor as the basis of an unwanted mental condition, you cannot claim it is a "medical illness."

Many illnesses, both physical and psychological, result from reasons other than pathogens, lesions, or tumors.  Biochemical/ hormonal imbalances lie at the root of myriad "dis-eases," including forms of mental illness.

...to then make the leap and say that these are "diseases" that can be treated with a "medicine" is untenable.

Many forms of mental illness can be effectively treated using antipsychotic/ antidepressant medications, and/ or complementary, herbal remedies, especially when used in conjunction with proper counseling or psychotherapy.

...it comes with very severe long-term side effects for everyone.

This statement is just inaccurate and unsubstantiated.  Many people have taken medication for mental illness as prescribed for, essentially, their entire lives, and have suffered no physical ill effects.  Most medications are metabolized by the liver and excreted by the kidneys, and have a relatively short half-life.  An otherwise healthy body is usually able to handle a prescribed dose without any trouble.

...don't lose sight of the fact that you are taking a mind-altering drug.  Anyone would feel better after drinking a cocktail or snorting cocaine, but I wouldn't call it "medication"!

Most people drinking cocktails and snorting cocaine don't call it "medication," either.  Then again, they aren't typically using these substances for medical purposes, under the supervision of a physician or psychiatrist.  On the other hand, I also believe that the moderate use of some mind-altering substances can be healthy under the right circumstances.  Our world's primitive peoples did--and still do--tend to feel the same way.

...on this antidepressant issue everyone should check their emotions at the door and take a long hard look at the logic from a purely scientific point of view, rather than believe the age-old propaganda that we all have heard for years and years throughout the media that comes, in fact, from those parties benefiting from selling psychotopic drugs.

I agree.  However, I don't believe that every statement supporting the proper use of antipsychotic/ antidepressant medication necessarily constitutes "propaganda."  Of course the pharmaceutical companies are going to try to sell as much of their product as possible.  Does this mean that all of their products are without merit?  I think not. 

I have been around too many people not to know that these drugs are very dangerous.

I have been around too many people to know that these drugs can improve the quality of--or outright save--people's lives.

Well put Tony!

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The Voting Booth / Re: What do you eat most of during the day?
« on: March 20, 2012, 02:08:42 PM »
Greens,nuts, fruit, chicken, beef and fish.Pretty much in that order.

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The Voting Booth / Re: Creationism Vs Evolution
« on: March 20, 2012, 02:06:09 PM »
Evo seems to be my educated guess. I do believe it is inspired by a higher power though. JMHO

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The Voting Booth / Re: Fight or Flight?
« on: March 20, 2012, 02:04:04 PM »
I was taught that the best weapon in a fight is my feet... Point them in the opposite direction of the threat and run to safety. I consider this fighting because it is a conscious choice. When suddenly startled my reflex is to stike out against threat. When protecting my home I am a proponent of lead and gunpowder. No to moments in time are identical, so my responses are unique also.
     Very interesting thread!

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The Voting Booth / Re: Are you anthropocentric or biocentric?
« on: March 20, 2012, 01:57:13 PM »
All are One.

Yup.  Body and spirit (it's all energy)... we're all parts of the same "One-ness."   8)
I agree!, good topic.

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The Voting Booth / Re: Calling all caffeine addicts.
« on: March 20, 2012, 01:54:33 PM »
I drink 1-2 small cups in the morning. Then drink as much white tea as I like, 2-6 cups a day. Melatonin works for sleep but use it rarely. A good book works best! :)

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The Voting Booth / Re: 3 days without television, can you do it?
« on: March 20, 2012, 01:34:02 PM »
I voted 30+ out of honesty. Can I go three days without... sure I can. Wife says yes also, but only when we are camping-lmao.

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Food & Diet / Re: Rutabaga?
« on: March 15, 2012, 08:27:23 PM »
Love it, turnips and parsnips too. St Patty's day feas :)t!!!!

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Are salads a good choice, mixed greens and cooked greens like collards, kale, mustard etc.?

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